Depression builds walls around people and between people. When someone you love has been dragged inside those walls, there can be a distance between you both that feels relentless. You miss them, but they’re right there beside you, except that they’re kind of not. Not in the way you both want to be anyway.
The symptoms of depression exist on a spectrum. All of them are normal human experiences, but in depression they’re intensified. Not everyone who has depression will have a formal diagnosis, so knowing what to watch out for can help to make sense of the changes you might notice.
Depression looks like a withdrawal. It feels that way too. It’s a withdrawal from everything that is enriching and life-giving. Depression sucks the life out of life. That’s how it feels. When depression bites, everything becomes hard. Life starts to hurt. Those who are bitten stop looking forward to things. They stop engaging and they stop enjoying things, even the things they used to love. They can feel hard to reach, and sometimes they can be angry or appear as though they don’t care. That isn’t because they want to withdraw from you or push you away, they don’t, although it can feel that way.
Here are some ways to fight for them, beside them and for the times the fight has to be theirs, behind them:
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Depression is never a choice.
If people with depression could be happy, they would be. Depression leaves people feeling as though they’ve been scooped out with a spoon. It’s a hijacking of everything that feels good. The hopelessness, emptiness and loneliness is relentless. If they knew how to be any other way, they would be.
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It’s okay to feel frustrated or angry.
The helplessness of loving someone with depression can be frustrating, exhausting and lonely. It’s okay to feel angry at times, or as though you want to throw your hands in the air and walk away. You’re human and when you love someone with depression, there will be times that you’ll be in the arena too, fighting the battle. Remember that you’re fighting a common enemy and it’s depression, not the person beside you. Try to see through the symptoms to the person you know, because they’re in there.
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Depression is a withdrawal, but not from you.
When you love someone with depression it can feel as though you’ve lost them for a while. The person you’ve always known and loved is still there, but they’ve withdrawn into themselves, away from the pain and hopelessness of it all, not away from you. It just feels like the safest place to be, but it doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t have you right there with them if they knew how to do that.
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You’re grieving too.
Depression steals people. If the depression has been around for long enough, you might feel a sense of grief. If you need to get angry, sad, or fall to your knees some days, that’s okay. You’re fighting a battle too. It’s okay to pull back to recharge now and then. Be kind to yourself and do something that replenishes you. Reach out to someone, but don’t lean on the person with depression. People with depression already see themselves as a burden, and anything that inflames that might cause them to withdraw even more.
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When nothing is as powerful as something.
People with depression won’t always have the words and will feel the burden of being with you when they don’t know what to say or do. Let them know that you love that version of them too – the one that has nothing to say, or plenty to say but no will to say it. Let them know that you’re there for them even if they don’t want to talk. Silence with someone can be lovely when you’re depleted. ‘You don’t have to be anyone different to who you are. You don’t need to change or pretend or put on a happy face. I love you and I’m here for you.’
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People with depression are strong.
People with depression are some of the strongest people I’ve met. They have to be. The pain and hopelessness of depression is immense and to keep existing day after day under the weight of that takes an almighty fight, fuelled by almighty strength and courage.
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What they’re doing makes sense.
We all have needs we can’t give up. They’re the big ones and they’re an inescapable part of being human – love, validation, respect, visibility, safety, influence, connection, appreciation, purpose. You know the ones. When one of these needs isn’t met, the temptation can be to push it down – to ‘depress’ it – to where it’s out of awareness and can’t cause trouble. But of course, any symptom whether physical or emotional will always cause trouble when it’s ignored. It takes the strength of a warrior to keep pushing things down, and getting on with life. Eventually, when people have been strong for too long the armour will crack. Depression hurts, but it makes sense. It’s a creative, adaptive withdrawal from a world that feels painful to be in.
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Being positive probably won’t work.
Reframing things positively is generally done with loving intent, but most likely it just won’t work. The messages that are sent with love will likely be received as ‘nobody understands’. For someone who is being caned by depression, there is no positive. Research has found that people who are already unhappy don’t want to be talked into the glossy view of life, they just want understanding. The view of reality is shaped by a lifetime of experience and sometimes, the way people see the world is exactly the way the world is for them. Trying to push against this can work against what you’re trying to do and intensify the loneliness and desperation of it all. Reframing things in a positive way is important, but it can’t be forced.
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So if positive is out, what then?
You don’t have to fix anything or change anything. If there was a way to do that, they would have done it themselves by now. Instead, acknowledge their pain, ‘I know this is really hard for you,’ and validate what they’re going through ‘I know you’re hurting. That’s understandable given what you’re going through’, or ‘I know you’re fighting a tough battle right now.’ Be the one who can be with them without having to change them. This will probably explode your own feelings of helplessness, but reworking things towards a positive angle will ease your helplessness, not theirs. That helplessness you’re feeling is the bit you’re doing together. So is the pain and the confusion of that. That’s what makes your love unconditional and your support something extraordinary.
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Try not to let the negative talk go on and on and on and on and …
It’s really important to hear people from where they are, but if the discussion of a negative thought goes on and on and on and starts to feel circular, it’s not good for anyone. It’s called rumination and it can make it harder to move through depression. Talk about it with them for sure, but try to persuade the conversation in a different direction after a while if you can.
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If you’re struggling for words, let those be the words.
There’s no need to gloss it up. The truth is that it’s hard to know what to say because there’s nothing that can take away the pain. Don’t worry about saying the ‘right’ thing, there is no right thing. Instead say the ‘real’ thing with love and an open heart. Share what you’re feeling, because chances are that they’re feeling it too. Common ground will shrink the distance between you. You might not be depressed, but chances are you’ll be feeling a lot of the things they’re feeling – sadness, confusion, frustration, helplessness, and the greatest wish that you knew how to make it better. ‘I wish that you weren’t in so much pain and I wish I knew how to soften things for you, but I don’t know how to do that. What I will do is be here for you for as long as it takes.’
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Ask them what you do that doesn’t help. And listen.
Depression can be different for everyone. You can’t be expected to know how to respond. Ask what they need from you and whether there’s something they need you to do differently. Be open to the response and don’t take it personally.
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Don’t ask them what they’re depressed about.
When people are sad they generally have an idea of why. Depression doesn’t always work like that. Sometimes people will be aware of what has triggered their depression, but sometimes it won’t be obvious. On paper, people with depression can look as though they have everything to be happy about – they can even believe that themselves – but depression doesn’t play by any rules.
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Try to initiate the things they used to love, that depression has stolen.
At a time when people need connection the most, depression forces distance. Do everything you can not to let it. Connection and positive feelings strengthen the brain against depression, and exercise can cause the same changes in the brain as antidepressants. The problem is that the very nature of depression will hold people back from doing any of these. Don’t wait for them to feel like doing things. They won’t. Their depression won’t let them. Depression is there to nurture withdrawal, remember. It does this by stealing motivation, and creating exhaustion. Be tender, gentle and loving and reintroduce them to life, connection, and positive feelings. You’re likely to get resistance, and a lot of it. Know that this isn’t personal and do what you can do anyway.
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Another reason to initiate.
Thoughts, feelings and behaviours are intimately connected. They tend to follow each other, so someone with depression will think depressed thoughts (‘Nothing makes a difference’; ‘I’m useless’), feel depressed feelings (pain, hopelessness, exhaustion) and this will drive depressed behaviour (withdrawal and a depressed mood). A change in one will eventually lead to the other but the change is unlikely come from the person with depression. Out of the three, thoughts and feelings are the toughest to change. They’re tenacious. This is why things like, ‘get over it’ or ‘it’s not that bad’ or ‘just try to be a bit positive, hey?’ won’t work. The best way is through their behavior, but you’ll have to be stronger than their depression. Initiate walks, dinners, holidays – anything that has the potential to create positive feelings. Take their hand and lead them there gently.
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They are not broken.
There is nothing abnormal about the symptoms of depression. They’re a very normal part of human experience, but with an intensity that’s relentless. We’ve all felt sad, disconnected, the need to withdraw, hopeless, helpless, exhausted, and as though the fun has faded for a while These are all common experiences, even if only fleetingly at times and from the kinder end of the spectrum. What makes these very human experiences lead to a diagnosis of depression is a question of degree. People with depression experience the same we all experience, but at a different intensity, duration, or cluster of symptoms.
Depression rarely takes hold of just one person. When depression settles into someone, helplessness, fear and sadness bleed through the walls it builds around that person and into the lives of those who love them. It’s exhausting for everyone. There is always a way through depression but it takes an almighty fight. You won’t always have it in you to fight alongside them and you won’t always know what to do but that’s okay – you don’t have to do any of that to fight for them. Few things are as powerful as human connection and anything you can do to nurture that will help to put back what depression strips away.
I was first diagnosed with depression right after the birth of my first child, which shocked me. I was the happiest I could ever remember feeling, at that point I tried therapy and medication, but it didn’t work so I stopped everything. Especially because this was how I was used to feeling, and actually usually worse. Things became worse over the years until I was so empty from feeling nothing, just that consuming hopeless emptiness inside. No one understood me, I felt so alone. Even with my kids around me. My kids came first though, nothing is ever coming in the way of that. Then I met someone, and it wasn’t something I was looking for. He made the emptiness just gone. We’ve talked a lot, and he has behaved like a lot of the people in these comments often pushing me away. I saw he had depression, just like me so I wasn’t giving up on him not when he somehow gave me hope for the first time in a long time. In the development of our relationship, we’ve both been diagnosed with walking depression. Weird because I just thought depression was like the commercials, incapacitating. Because I kept on keeping on I just thought my depression was mild. It’s not, everyone just deals with things in different ways. It’s not easy, but I think it’s because I need someone I care about to keep me going, and he’s the same way, we keep each other going. Why is it though that he only gets angry with me? I’ve asked myself this a lot, and looking at things I see he bottles everything up and acts fine around everyone, does everything he is required to do and functions. It’s with me that he is himself and let’s everything out. That tells me how close we are, that he can release his emotions with me. He doesn’t have to pretend. This is not easy to handle though, and it brings him guilt. He says he knows it’s wrong to get angry with me, he just can’t help it. He says he should be supportive of me all the time not trying to instigate conflict. I know it’s not ok, and I don’t take it personally, I can see his pain. Anyway, we really know how the other feels, great understanding since we are both diagnosed with the same thing, and our sense of responsibility to loved ones that has always kept us going now applies to each other. It’s become a very balanced give and take relationship full of understanding and support that I believe will eventually pull us both out of our lifelong walking depression. Just wanted people to know there is hope, I have hope for the first time, even though I don’t think it’s ever going to be completely easy, there will always be bad days, it’s just life. Just don’t give up. The ups will come to outweigh the downs.
So its been 2 weeks since he moved back to his parents. The 2 weeks prior to that there was more communication and contact. Saw each other several times and even spent a couple nights together. It was almost normal when we were together. We had lengthy phone conversations and all of it gave me hope. He still struggled with telling me how he feels and at one point when I told him that was the hardest part of this he told me he does love me but needs to keep his emotions in check right now bc his mood isn’t going to last. He’s still says he feels nothing and compares himself to being in a whirlpool. As hard as it was to see him drive away in that uhaul I knew it could be good for him since he doesn’t think he’s able to survive here financially. He got a job within a few days after being up there and just completed his first week. Pay is a little better and seems to be making more hours and with no rent he should be able to save money to better stand on his own-which is the primary cause of his depression. But this last week I feel as if he’s pulling away again like he did in the beginning. He does respond to texts not always right away but regularly. We have talked, but the last week I feel as if it’s becoming harder to get him on the phone. I’m afraid of him sinking back all the way into the bottom of the pit he was in. I’m trying not to push too much but sometimes I feel as if I am. I probably made the mistake of telling him I felt taken for granted and that he’s not doing much to show how important to him I am. I know he’s doing the best he can and I just miss him to which I also told him. I hope I didn’t cause him to pull further.. It’s just so frustrating loving someone so deeply and they’re in so much emptiness they can’t feel it as they used to. I don’t want him to feel anymore guilt than he already does and I just wish he could see other happiness with what he does have instead of where he isn’t at in life. Personally I was doing ok for a bit when things started looking up but the last week has been rough. It’s not like I didn’t know it would prob get worse before it got better when he got up there. A big change and being out of the only life you know will have an impact. I’m not giving up and I just have to survive myself while he starts to find himself again. Our 2yr anniversary is coming up in a few weeks and I’m hoping to be able to visit soon. I continue to wish my best and my love and support for everyone on here.
All i can say is give him his space. While that ma be very hard to do with whats going on, i think it might help. I wish someone had gave me that advice because i kept trying and trying to make my girl at the time spend time with me and i pushed her away. Maybe for good i think as i think she is involvled with someone else now. But resist the need to force t interactions with him, if he talks to yoou willingly the great but dont force him too cause id hate for your situation to end up like mines. i lost the love of my life it feels like. I know when out anniversary came around and also my bday cause it was a little after it, she didnt even mention it like it didnt matter. That hurt me so i think i said some hurtful things in the heat of the moment. Its a complicated process and what works for someone may not work for you or your partner because everyones depression is different. I can only offer advice that may or may not work from my experience but its no rule book to this depression shit and it can be extremely frusttrating loving some one who deals with it. Wish you the best on your situation tho.PS. i know i wrote alot but i still feel strongly about her and the situatuon even tho its been a year since ive seen her now.
Hi all..I could do with some advice. My usually wonderful man Steve is suffering and a month ago had a stressful time at work, he then had a really nasty cyst on his man bits which got infected. He then started to get down, the infection will make him feel like that his gp said, but now he’s totally isolated himself from me.
He usually would txt when he’s feeling bad or talk to me, we haven’t seen each other for 2 weeks, usually we talk or txt at least twice a day.
He txt me on Thursday and said he needs to focus on himself for a while, I tried to call to find out what he needed from me, he wouldn’t answer.
I’m worried, he lives with his male flatmate and shuts himself away, i’m good at giving him space, but don’t know what to do.
I have a long history of really severe depression requiring hospital treatment, I haven’t had any episodes or felt down for 11 years, I also have a daughter sectioned who has an asd and borderline, also another daughter with depression, so I really know how it destroys..
He wants to lock himself away, won’t talk, nothing. We are meant to be away watching his football team but we cancelled.
I know i’ve been gentle with him and i never usually call him first, he’s usually a highly sexual man who wants to go 7 x in a night, his sex drive has gone.
He says this is nothing to do with me but then he doesnt want to see me, i don’t get that.
I love him, I don’t want to lose him and i’m scared I might. I told him it’s fine take whatever time you need as i’m conventrating on my ADI training and I didn’t want to lose him and to get in touch if he needed me, i’m worried staying in his room will make him worse.
It is always so comforting to know that you are not going through a situation alone and that there are many others who are experiencing the same pain.
I have been with my boyfriend for 5 years, and he has always struggled with depression but over the past two years it has been exasperated. My boyfriend had a traumatic upbringing- father was in jail for the first 7 years of his life leaving his mother scraping by to raise 4 children under the age of 5. Father gets out of jail and life completely takes a 180. Father ingrains fighting into his sons and that they should stop at nothing to defend themselves and their family. His father encouraged violent behavior and struggling for the approval from his father my boyfriend fought his way through his teen years ending up in and out of DYS and jail from the age of 12-21. Fast forward to 20 and his brother comes home one night extremely beat up and needing to be hospitalized. My boyfriend under the guidance of his father proceeded to hit his brother’s assailant in the face with a bat sending him to jail for 2 years…
Fast forward to 25 and we meet each other- both coming out of 5-7 year relationships with our first loves. Ofcourse I had the I can fix this mentality and here I am 5 years later still fighting an uphill battle.
Over the past year my boyfriend had a seizure, lost his job, we lost our apartment due to raised rent and a psycho landlord who tried throwing herself in front of my car so she could sue me, had to move home with our parents (who live 2 hours away from eachother), and separate our animals from him.
We have since recovered and are back together but the depression he is experiencing is at an all time high and unfortunately I come across as selfish and needy to him because I am not getting the support and love from the relationship that I need. I can’t explain how confusing it is to come home one day from work and he’s excited, happy, loving and affectionate to the next week he barely wants to look me in the face, doesn’t speak and won’t even touch me. And it is exhausting. I do everything I can to try to make him happy but instead he views it as needy and controlling.
I feel like my emotional needs have always been on the back burner.
I love him so much but I am exhausted. He doesn’t seem to want to admit or acknowledge how exhausting and tiring it is to love someone with depression. Sending love and thoughts to all the other significant others dealing with the pain of loving someone with this disease
Thank you for sharing and I’m so sorry you are going through this. I know firsthand how exhausting it is to love someone who is depressed. My fiance of 5 years says he feels dead inside. I also come across the wrong way to him because of the lack of what he is giving to me. I love him so much but he is not capable of feeling it. If a person tells you they feel nothing inside then I don’t see how they can feel love and affection towards anyone else either. It’s so hard and frustrating to deal with. Depression steals from the person who suffers with it and also from the people who care about them and love them. Depression is a their for all.
My ex boyfriend is struggling with depression. A few days ago he lost his job. He was having financial issues before the job loss.
He decided that we should just be friends because he isn’t meeting my needs emotionally and he can’t do the same things (surprising me with gifts, going on trips, etc) that he used to do. He knows I’m not at all materialistic but he feels he can’t be there for me like he once was.
I noticed the beginning of the depression in December. It’s just gotten worse and he seems so far away. I can honestly remember saying “i miss You” when he was sitting right beside me on the couch.
Now that he just wants to be friends, i honestly don’t know how. I want to be there and support him. It’s heartbreaking to watch him sink into depression. He can’t visit the dr or therapist as he has no insurance.
How can I be there to support him and keep the friendship boundary—and not break my own heart?
I hope this doesn’t sound completely selfish. I just Don’t know what to do. I feel incredibly alone. I’m hurting because he’s hurting.
So he just left to move. I guess i feel a mixture of sadness that he’s really gone and relief that this could be what he needs to feel better. The last couple weeks have been better than the prior month and half. Saw and spoke to him more frequently, not close to the old normal but there are moments when it feels like it is. He still feels nothing and is afraid of being happy in moments bc he knows it won’t last. I finally told him the worst part was him not being able to even tell me he loves me. Since then I’ve heard it a few times but i try not to say it too much either. For everyone struggling with this i can only say dont give up easy. Depression is the same but it’s also different. For those moments that seem so normal just let it be and don’t push too much. They have to come back in their own time. If he wasn’t moving im sure the time we’ve spent the last couple weeks would have been much less frequent. But when you get any time keep it positive, try to laugh, bring up memories that make you two you. Not too much but just enough to have them remember what happy felt like. Behavior and human connection can change thoughts and feelings but what a battle it is to get that time. Just don’t give up unless your actually ready to walk away. But know it will be a long fight that you will feel mostly alone confused and frustrated. That’s how they feel too. Remember its not you and this isn’t their choice to pull away, it’s just feels like the only option. Be strong and hold onto hope. I wish the best for anyone who’s going through this.
This sounds like my now ex girlfriend. She has been in some very verbally abusive relationships. But I know something else has cause her depression. Maybe seasonal affective disorder, SAD. She dumped me, I tried so hard, I even gave her space. But I know she loves me. She even told me and was talking about moving in. Then a cpuole weeks later, lashed out. She was so emotional and crying her eyes out when she ended it, like she didn’t know why she was doing it or pushing away. I tried to reach out once, and she didn’t respond. We havent talked in 2 months. I miss her a lot. I want her back and i love her. But not sure what to do? I don’t want to push her away more. I want to be there for her, but i dont want to push her away? Any suggestions?
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I’m sorry. Seems youve done better at giving space than alot of us. I think you should be able to reach out and tell her u still love and miss her. That you hope she is doing ok and you would like to talk to her sometimes. Maybe you just start out with how are you? Idk. It’s the balance of giving support but them feeling like a burden. They know the pain they are causing us but can’t help it so its easier to distance themselves. They don’t see a light at the end of the tunnel, they may not even believe it exists. This feels like the hardest thing I’ve ever been through. It’s not just a relationship failed. It’s depression stealing them. I don’t know your full story but I hope she isn’t alone and she has someone to talk to. Family seems to be the less pressured people over friends or significant others. Just try not to get mad at her, she’s not doing this on purpose. She just doesn’t know what else to do. Like Vicki said above those lines help me too. All you can do is educate yourself and try to move forward. I have hope but it’s a daily battle with anxiety and fear of the future. Hard to live in the present when your world seems to fall away and you don’t know what or if there’s anything more u could be doing to make it better or even if you’re making it worse. Just stay true to yourself and try not to put on too much pressure but if you still have hope dont give up and fight for it as long as you can. Try to keep some contact bc as much as they feel like a burden they should know they are still cared about even at their lowest points.
Well said. I could have used this advice when I was dealing with my own relationship. Instead of giving her space I kept pushing the issue until I eventually pushed her away. For good maybe but I pray I’m wrong about that.
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Are u still blocked? Any contact with her in the last 9 months?
Maybe you could write her a letter? Reread and rewrite over and over to get correct but at this point i feel you still need closure one way or another. Is the person still there that loves us so much, are they still struggling or are they happier now and have moved on? It’s limbo. I know my bf is still in there and i would wait a year for him to re find himself. His issue is more financial security and purpose. With yours idk if something terrible happened at school and unless she said it you can only guess. I wouldn’t put that in the letter tho. Just positivity and warm thoughts. Maybe mention things you used to enjoy together or anything meaningful. It’ll either bring back and remind her of some happiness she once had or maybe you won’t get a reply. At the end of the day you need to know you did everything you could when that time comes. But if you’ve had no contact with her for months at a time then why not reach out. You can apologise for pushing and tell her you forgive her etc. She may need to hear it. Idk. I really hope she finds her way back to you tho. I feel like all of us need some happy endings.
I’ve spoken with her over social media. That’s about it. I’m still hopeful that one day maybe we find our way back to each other. But for now I think it’s better to just let her do own thing and I do mines tbh. When we spoke it was good and all but I don’t wanna force anything. That was a couple weeks ago. I’ll always love and care for that girl and knows that much. Idk it’s kinda of a weird situation but as much as I wanna be with her I can’t sit and wait forever. Im working on bettering myself atm so when the time comes where we may get back together I’ll be ready. I don’t think I was ready for her back when we were together, I see that now. I’ve learned a lot about myself since we’ve been separated. And as far as what may have happened to her, I still don’t know and I’m not going to ask either, if she decides to tell me it’ll be of her own accord. But I hope you situation turns out better for you.
He’s decided he’s moving back with his parents a few hours away, planning on putting his two weeks in at the end of the week. I know this will potentially help him and maybe it’ll alleviate some of the anxiety of not knowing if today, tomorrow etc will be the day ill see him since he won’t even be here to see. I told him ill visit and he was open to that so maybe this is the start of his recovery. Just heartbreaking knowing they’re in so much pain and there’s nothing you can do to change that. Fighting for someone who doesn’t think they’re worth it. Forgetting the happiness in moments and only seeing what i can’t give. Im hoping we can each find some peace bettering ourselves and come out of this stronger as a couple. Knowing this is going to be a hard road to travel doesn’t help me prepare for it any better. I know i will survive this and nothing worth having is ever easy but is it really too much to ask to want to come out whole.. Letting go of something so real isn’t an option so its only onward through the trenches trying to wade through the mud and remembering to breathe along the way. You guys are not alone even though it feels like that. They are in there buried deep so keep hoping and supporting and doing the best you can do to survive each day for as long as you can. In the meantime you have to get out the house and make an effort to do something. When they come back you cant be as depressed as they were. Smallest thing doesn’t matter. Errands you put off or even if its just a drive to a further grocery or gas. I was told to make a list of everything i ever wanted or needed to do. And talk to someone, anyone. I found a coworker who dealt with his own severe depression and it helps knowing I’m doing everything i can. I just hope its enough to make a difference in the long run. That sticking it out believing they can overcome will bring them back.
My boyfriend has pushed me out, doesn’t want to see me or hear from me. It happened overnight. He has struggled with major depression for 20+ years (42 now) and has been to a lot of counseling & is on meds but with no insurance and him feeling good he went of the meds 1 1/2 months ago.
Of course it caught up to him and I encouraged him to start the meds again which he did and was telling me the outlets he needs to do to help himself etc. Everything seemed fine and he woke up one day a different person.
The way he talked and walked was different, the best man I’ve ever met turned mean and said hes done trying, it’s too much. He said it always comes back, I tried to be encouraging saying he is not alone and is worth it, WE are worth it, etc but he shuts me down with every comment & now refuses to respond or see me.
What do I do? If he eventually gets better will he want a relationship again? We both knew we had a love that is only talked about in movies, Im heartbroken…
Hello there, I found this board after many desperate Google searches on what to do when your relationship is being hurt by suspected depression. Like many of you, I have been stuck “in-between”. How much do you offer support? How much do you take a step back? What do those things actually mean?
A bit of context with my story: I have been with the love of my life for almost 3 years. In some ways we are opposites, in other ways we are like the same person. There really isn’t a sufficient way to describe in text how I feel about him, and how he has felt about me. Unfortunately, about a year and a half ago, he started to withdraw a bit from me. I took it very personally in the beginning, thinking something was wrong with our connection and questioning if we were right for each other. After one visit to a couples counselor, he said he did not want to go as a couple and felt it was his issue, that something was wrong with him and that it was not me. He also shared for the first time that he thought it may be depression. I encouraged him for the next 6 months to make an appointment on his own and to also see his primary care doctor. As typical with depression (though I did not understand this at the time) he lacked motivation to take these steps and nothing came of it. He had started to gain weight quite rapidly, and no longer wanted to go out as we used to. I tried a different approach, and encouraged him to talk to family members if he could not talk to me or a therapist about it. Acknowledging that you may not be the person he wants to talk to is hard, but necessary. Sometimes it can’t always be you, because they feel guilt for already not being the person you deserve. I believe he spoke to his brothers whom he is very close to, but I don’t think he shared the true extent of it with them. I want to point out that because depression is cyclical, there were lovely happy moments scattered in the midst of all this. These moments gave me hope that the problem was being resolved, though it wasn’t and isn’t that easy. We had discussed moving in together and marriage, but it never went anywhere. He would withdrawal and I took this very personally. I took this to mean that perhaps it is me, or that I wasn’t the woman he wanted to commit to. I had no idea what depression really was and did not understand that this is typical. Depression makes you question your true feelings about many different aspects of your life. When he would withdrawal, I knew something was wrong but he couldn’t explain what it was. He knew he loved me, but could not understand why he felt so unhappy in our relationship. Recently, he began showing signs of withdrawal again. I became very frustrated, worried, and sad with his actions. We had a conversation (though a conversation with a depressed partner can feel very one-sided), and I asked what was going on with him. He struggled to find a way to explain what he was feeling. He knew he had been avoiding contact, and he felt so guilty for that. He stated that things just didn’t feel right. I begged him to talk to a professional, and stated I could not help him unless he wanted to be helped. He decided he could not figure this out while in a relationship and we tearfully broke up. I don’t believe it was something either of us truly wanted to do, though without the break things would have most likely continued the same pattern. On my end, the break has lit a fire under me. I have begun to research and educate myself on the beast that is depression. Depression takes on many different faces, and there is not a “one size fits all” approach to helping someone through it. For us, we continue contact and continue to love each other, but the future is unclear. He has not yet reached the point of surrending that he cannot do this on his own. I do my best to find the right words of encouragement for him to seek professional help, but it is ultimately a decision he has to make. In terms of helpful research, The Storied Mind and Esperanza blogs have aided me most. There are many articles on how to support a loved one who is dealing with depression. Thank you for being kind listeners.
-L
So many stories and mine started a month ago … Until I confronted them to stop putting them back. I honestly have lost sense and trying to analyze the best way and here it has helped a lot because my boyfriend is in the beginning of a depression. It is very hard to be on the side but I have tried in many ways to help and I can only give the space you need. The doubt is after three years of relationship will not this space be lost? Thanks for the testimonials you feel that I’m not alone.
I am finding this 2 years after originally posted and it fits my situation. I have just recently split with my boyfriend after being pushed away. He is suffering with depression, and we lived together. I initially went into defence mode when he told me he was feeling bad about not being able to give me what I deserve as he feels distant. It had happened before and I had thought it was because he was having trouble with commitment, so when he said this again that is what immediately came to my mind (I have suffered with self esteem issues from previous relationship and thinking that I’m not good enough and I’m going to get left behind), so thought it was to do with me. I suffered months of depression previously this year and I feel guilty that he feels he can not turn to me because he doesn’t want to bring me down. But your comment about it ‘not always being you they want to turn to’ really hit home, and something I needed to see. The guilt has been eating me up, thinking that I have let him down by giving him space. It is really refreshing to not feel alone in this situation, it is so heartbreaking to watch somebody you love suffer, especially if you have had depression yourself. I am disappointed that I missed some of the signs or that I didn’t ask enough. I would ask him as ai would notice behaviour patterns and he would open up to me, but things have just got too stressful for him just now. He says he just felt something wasn’t right but I am perfect for him, and it’s not me it’s him, and he doesn’t want to ‘drag me down with him.’ It breaks my heart that he thinks that. But I am starting to understand that it is the depression and not him. We have still been in contact and I have been supportive and sending him messages of light. After the first couple days it was still too fresh and I said I would be there for him, but I couldn’t have him messaging me saying he misses me and how great I am, as I am hurting too. I didn’t think it was good for him or me, and he did agree. I then immediately doubt myself and think I’m being harsh and unsupportive but I need to set myself a boundary too. I do think space is good for him as he has had a really hard life and a lot of traumatic things and burdens of situations have happened to him and those around him. He has carried everybody else’s problems for so long, he does now realise he needs to carry his own and it will take some time. He has no idea how amazing he is and how much I appreciate and adore him, even though I tell him all the time. I said I was gutted ai lost him, as in the relationship, and he said I haven’t lost him but he ‘lost himself somewhere along the line and it’s horrible.’ I am just so sad he is feeling this way, and disappointed that I let my ego jump to the defence and probably make him feel more hopeless, when he was trying to protect me. I am really glad I have found this page and thank you all for sharing, and allowing me to be kinder to myself in this difficult circumstance.
Anyone else have any updates on their situations? Hopefully positive ones.. Need a happy boat. There’s some days it feels unbearable but i know he’s still in there. 5 weeks now and he’s sinking deeper and more angry lately with less contact. How can you attempt to change behavior when you continuously get pushed back? I keep trying to initiate unbeknownst to him why. I feel like he’s almost accepted this is how he feels and it’s so real to him nothing else matters. How do we fight for them when they are giving up wanting anything positive?
Hi sadly my world has gone from bad to worse. I have now discovered that he is in a terrible amount of debt and won’t let me in. Won’t let me support him won’t talk about it says that it’s his mess and he will sort it. Not only shut out emotionally because of depression but now my help is not required to ease the burden of a side effect of depression. Each day I’m getting closer and closer to the door. My heart and head matter too
Hi,
I’ve been following this thread now for some time as my other half seemingly changed overnight back in Aug 2016.
If you look back over the post my original comment is in there as to how things were.
Now here we are in March 2018 our relationship had arrived at critical mass. My stress and fustration with the change that had occured in my partner was becoming overbearing. She wasn’t acknowledging that she had changed and also began blaming me IF any change had taken place.
I’d ended the relationship only for us both to realise we were being foolish.
As of today; my partner is now booked in for counselling next week. We’ve tried relationship counselling but WE weren’t the problem so it wasn’t working.
There has suddenly been an epiphany on her part, it came at the 11th hour and I suspect my ending the relationship was a shock and maybe the proverbial kick up the backside.
I had run out of steam; I love the girl dearly but I couldn’t cope anymore so had to respect myself.
So here we are, I’m wondering now if like before it’s all talk on her part and nothing will change; but I’ve got to give her the benefit of the doubt and owe her that.
I do keep an eye on this post and will dip in again mid year to update you all.
You can’t beat yourself up if your patience runs out. You can’t change someone if they don’t want/aren’t ready to change.
The more you push them, out of sheer frustration and upset will only push them further away. Like a child you are telling not to do something, they do it more. But your frustration cannot be discounted, you are equally as important in the relationship.
Look after yourself and take time to switch off from it all or else it will drive you into depression/anxiety – trust me, I’ve been there.
I have been researching depression for the past few weeks, while my boyfriend suffers from a distance. Despite everything in our relationship being great, I could feel him pulling away, until eventually, he admitted to struggling with doubts, both about staying and leaving. It made no sense, because nothing had gone wrong, and just a couple weeks before he said I was everything he ever wanted. I noticed the fatigue and a feeling of something being “off” about 10 days before the day he says he felt triggered by doubt, and I believe these doubts are a progression of the illness. It is what’s keeping his mind looping. I was first struck with fear, but as time has gone on, I can clearly see this isn’t my guy, and the battle we’re both fighting is his depression. It’s articles like these that have helped me understand. He welcomes my text messages and admits when he’s having a rough day, but refuses my help, saying he wants to do this on his own. I am so grateful for this article for not only helping me understand him, but for validating what I’m going through as well. “That helplessness your feeling is the bit you’re doing together. So is the pain and confusion of that. That’s what makes your love unconditional and your support something extraordinary.” … These words have helped me more than you can know. Thank you.
Hi everyone,
Found this site while trying to figure out what to do in my situation that is pretty much like a lot of yours. My boyfriend of 7.5 years has stared going to a therapist (which I’m glad about) but after seeing this therapist he told me he needed space to find “his own happy”. I’ve been giving him space, going on week three. I can thruthfully say that these have been some of the worst weeks of my life. I almost feel like I’m becomjng depressed too. I can’t eat I can’t sleep and I’m crying all the time. We live together but I’ve been couch surfing at family and friends houses. It’s so hard cause I miss him and just want to be there for him but he keeps telling me that’s not what he wants right now. It hurts so much that after 7.5 years I’m reduced to barely any communication. I’m glad I’m not alone but I’m sorry for anyone feeling this way. I just want things to get better and I’m scared and fear that the worst will happen and we will eventually breakup. I’m not sure if I could handle it. I really want to try that book,K.
Thanks to whoever will listen.
Hi,
This story is so similar to mine. I’ve been with my girlfriend nearly four years and she’s had depression once before. At that time she couldn’t let me out of her sight as she needed constant comfort and attention and was actively trying to kill herself, several attempts were made. After medication she stabilised and although over the four year period she’s had dips, the depression this time is different. She says she loves me but feels nothing and it’s breaking her heart. She now wants to be out of the house as much as possible so on an evening will regularly go over to a friends instead. It’s absolutely crushing when you hear from someone you love so much that they feel nothing for you. She says she needs to be able to love herself again before she can love me and that she needs time and space. This is obviously what I need to give her but it’s so hard when you just want to comfort and console that person and be there for them. With regards to myself, I’ve never felt this low in my life, I am also unable to eat or sleep and it is absolutely draining. Having to go to work with all of this on your mind is unbearable. I want to give her all the space she needs but I’m scared I’ll end up losing her no matter what. So painful.
So sorry to hear you are going through this. May I make a suggestion? Try to detach as much as you can, finding strength within and not through outside corcumstances. She will be there if she is supposed to be. Focus on being good to yourself, the rest will fall into place.
Cc, i’m so sorry. Worst weeks of mine too. 3 weeks just about too. Not eating too much either and i know I’m sinking. I went to a therapist, only once so far. I know i have to find my own strength and my happiness can’t depend on a relationship but this is hard. He’s now at the point where he says he doesn’t care about anyone or anything anymore. I’ve seen him 2x supposed to see him tomorrow. Idk tho. I know he loves and misses me but he struggles with saying it much less believing it lately. I feel like I’m losing him. And every bad day he has at work pulls him further down. I know what we have is real but he isn’t able to see that right now so I’m helpless. I do nothing and he gets worse. I push and I get pushed away more. It’s the worst feeling.
Cc
Over a year ago I was in your shoes. My boyfriend of seven years basically said the same thing. I know the struggles of being in the cold and not knowing where to go. My family and friends said get over it but I couldn’t. What help me out was first seeing a therapist. While also doing my research on depression. Now I can not say that you boyfriend is like mine but he needs his space to figure himself out. During this time do stuff for yourself. I can say you will get back on your feet. Don’t let his depression bring you down as well. If you would like a happy boat and that there might be a chance once he gets better, after a year and eleven days of our break my boyfriend texted me out of the blue wanting me to come home. Trust that love will see you though. Be strong it will get better. Prayers for you.
This is so very nice to hear. Cc. I am so happy for you It broke my heart to know that you were counting the days. I too am going through this awful illness with my husband 11 years. though he is working, the absence of the phone calls and checking in is just killing me. He is England and I am in the US and we were just about ready to move to England i’ve sold my house and have made all my financial plans in an effort for this dream, only to be hit with a third bout of depression in his life. he wants space and even forgot my birthday. his family doesn’t know so I have no one to share it with or even have someone look in him. my days are filled with tears and the happiest of memories, i never saw this coming. he has started taking medication in November and sometimes there is a glimmer of hope. I hope our story ends well and much like yours. be happy and enjoy each other, you must be the happiest woman in the world !
My darling, I am in a similar position to you right now, my boyfriend 6 weeks ago said he needed a break, it’s so hard being in limbo, I haven’t spoken to him in 3 weeks as he’s gone away for a month to do a ski job and said he will speak to me when he gets back. I feel like I spent the first 5 weeks obsessively overthinking everything.. my thoughts were consumed by the pain and dreaded thoughts of loosing him and like yourself I’ve had trouble eating and sleeping…
But last week after hitting what I felt was rock bottom.. I made the decision that I cannot live like that… it’s important that we use this time apart to reconnect with ourselves.. to find happiness outside our relationship.. the more we do that I think the stronger and more able we are to cope with the mental strain of it all, and that’s so important to us and our partners. It’s not easy .. but what else am I gna do! Carry on waiting around phone in hand…for him to get in contact? Running through every possible scenario!?? It’s not healthy! Don’t forget we have a life too.
I feel a bet better that it seems to be a fairly common occurrence.. that I am not alone.. this of course doesn’t change the situation.. but I don’t feel so alone anymore… and it’s given me more hope x
So i find myself keep coming back to this website and the comments. As much as it makes me feel better to know I’m not alone in having a significant other with depression I wouldn’t wish this on anyone. My story is so similar to half these posts. Almost two years with my bf. He has ups and downs but always comes back. Lately its gotten worse and more time apart than normal. Nothing makes him happy, wants to solve on his own-needing a break. Breaks my heart. These posts have helped me try not to push too hard. But that is hard in itself bc i know that connection is the only thing that will bring him out. Friends and family dont really know. If they did not sure if they would make it worse by saying the positives etc. I ordered the depression fallout like people have suggested. I also figured I would tell you what I’m reading now that is helping me better understand and hopefully him at some point. Mindful way through depression : Freeing yourself from chronic unhappiness. It explains it in a way that’s relatable and easy to understand not like alot of self help books can be drol and hard to get through. It’s rough bc u can’t push too hard but u can’t back off too much bc it’ll get worse. I dont know where i fit in if i am pushing too much or not. I second guess everything i want to say or start to text. First couple days i tried to call, no answer. Responding to half my texts, short couple words but he’s there. It’s been half a week and a week since we’ve really spent any time together. Hes still not up to talking and im not sure if i should offer meeting up just to watch tv or movie where he doesn’t have to talk. I dont want to try too soon but how can i sit back knowing the longer he confines himself the worse its going to get. My heart goes out to everyone on here, especially the husbands/wives who have already built full lives with kids. I can’t even imagine. But for anyone who needs something try the book. Looking up depression and ways to help is the only thing not keeping me manic right now. It’s all i can do, all we can do to keep ourselves semi ok while we try to figure this out. Cognitive thinking seems like an alternative to medication and maybe will give a sense of solving the problem on their own. I look forward to anyone who has updates in their situation. Good luck to you all in the meantime and know this will make is stronger in the long run.
my fiance and I have been together for 2 years now. when we met she just lost her father and 4 months later she lost her mother, she now has no family here in canada.
she is undiagnosed but its clear that she has walking depression.
i feel like she is so angry with me, very often and she shows very little love.. i know she tries but its like she can not break the wall she has around herself and give me love or any kind of appreciation/confirmation.
i want to be with her, but im afraid that this pulls me down so i get very low and start to have depression myself. and i dont want to be pulled to that state, cause then we are both screwed.
its all so much negative energy and i try my best to keep myself positive inside, but its like she makes everything around her negative and sour..
i find my self in a hard position and dont know how to move forward.
I can’t express how much reading your stories has helped ease the worry and anxiety I’m feeling atm.
My BF of 1year has been suffering with depression on and off throughout his life my first experience of this with him started in September When he slipped into depression triggered by work related issues, for months I have supported him and loved him in every way possible and even got him to visit his Gp in October who prescribed medication..since then I’ve come to find the more Ive tried to help and nurture him the more he pulls away, he has good days and bad days sometimes weeks.. and although he finds it hard to be loving has told me on numerous occasions “I know I haven’t shown it lately, but I do love you very much.
I thought he had hit rock bottom on New Year’s Day when he was really down, but persuaded him to go to his parents and speak to them, they came to the conclusion that he should move home for a while which I fully supported ( he was living with friends.)
This gave him some encouragement and he told me how grateful he was for all my support and tho he hadn’t shown it lately he does love my very much.
Just two weeks later.. he then tells me..he thinks we need a break..that he’s not sure how he feels about everything in his life including me… he needs time alone to figure stuff out and get better…hes said he wasn’t breaking up or giving up on me but cant feel anything about anything… he seemed so lost and confused and in turn so am I.
I respect the space he has asked for and know I need to trust and hope he come to me when he is ready..
But what can do to help him during this time And to build the love and connection between us???
I’m going through the same exact thing with my boyfriend of almost 3 years. How is it going? I’m trying to remain strong and have faith that we’ll come back together.
I have been dealing with a spouse with depression for a vey long time. About a year ago he did agree to see a therapist but infortunately it was not a good one and he refuses to go again. Then I was able to get him to agree to an antidepressant. He was on for a while and took himself off. I agree wasn’t right dose but he says I don’t need at all. Ok fast forward a couple months bad relationship with father that was source of depression, father dies suddenly. Some of his family reacted in a way that was greedy all about money, he lost it. He is now in a very bad depression and is angry at everyone. He said he is the only one truly grieving. I am trying to support him but it has been a very stressful week of anger and fighting and now I am truly exhausted, he actually seemed a little better, not really eating or sleeping but anger was better. I work full time and I basically said to him you need to stop and sorry I did say get over it.i meant not grieve past him but anger over family. He snapped and now I feel like we just went back to square one. I am seeing a therapist tomorrow but I am scared that I just put him back. He says I have the problem not him. I really appreciate your hold like some advice as to how other people have handled this?
Hi, thank you for this . I learned a lot . Now I can help my wife . She has been depressed . But I did her wrong for so many years and she was always there for me through my problems . Now she has been depressed for a while and she always brings bad memories when she is depressed and it’s only with me when she gets mad and irritable. She’s not herself with the kids when she’s depressed but she’s still that living mother with them. I’m the one that gets it all. Can I be the one that caused her depression?
Yep…
Thank you all for making me feel so not alone. I am just “fast forward” coming to the realization that my bf of 11 years is suffering from undiagnosed (I fear) depression. I’m trying to learn how to help in a supportive and considerate manner. He and I shared some scary and mean comments that neither of us meant over the weekend (our anniversary). He has asked for space – a break – says the more I try the further he gets pushed away. Wants me in his life, but does not know if I’ll ever have my “Happy guy” back. It’s been the last 3 months that I’ve opened my eyes and accepted what I feared most. I realize I’ve been seeing this for the last 3 years. Says he does not love me, but loves me. I’m so lost. It’s eating me away inside. He said he needs to fix “what’s going on inside him”, so maybe there’s hope. I’ve lost my best friend…..thanks for listening. Xo
Jasmin,
Congratulations on your recovery process. It’s a big deal. I wish I could promise your love will protect your sister! But what you can do is show her that it can be beaten and live that example… especially being so familiar with the mind trap!
Chris G, I’m sorry that your former significant other felt you smothered her during her depression but please do not be too hard on yourself as though your desire to be a loving and supportive partner ruined things. We are all doing the best we can with what we have. It’s possible that you and she simply were not compatible– since your ways of handling crisis did not align. When people are suffering they feel such a strong desire to isolate and a lot of shame we can’t understand or even alleviate with our affection and love for them. They need that love but it’s also something they push away because they do not feel they deserve it. They do! But if they do not choose to believe you and in your relationship they simply were not the person who could weather life with you.
Stephanie,
the guilt you mention is something I dealt with, in my ex relationship and I wish I had a failsafe suggestion for how to counteract that belief they feel that they are putting you through hell or ruining your life. My advice would just be to tell him “I am exactly where I want to be.”
Good luck all!
Hi there,
I have been dating my boyfriend for 8 months now. A month before we started dating he lost his father. We met and had an instant connection, we talked for hours and hours and everything felt so natural. We talked about the future, and I thought that this was my happy ending. About 5 months into the relationship, his depression and grief set in. He wasn’t as affectionate and he became unmotivated and reserved. We had a couple discussions about it and I tried to listen to him whenever he was able to talk about it. He told me he felt broken inside and that he was a shadow in his own life but he wasn’t ready to do something to fix it. He slowly started to withdraw from me physically. And then around 7 Months I got frustrated and upset with him. And I gave myself a couple days to collect my thoughts before reaching out to him again, he was short with me and Avoided meeting with me. Said we would talk later. He hasn’t spoken to me in over a month now. There was no explanation nothing. I gave him some space because I know how hard the holidays were during times like these. After the holidays I reached out saying I would come by to visit to get something from his house. He responded but only to say it wasn’t a good day to drop by. I’m having a hard time accepting the fact that this is his way of breaking up with me. He was always very supportive, caring and loving. And for that to shut off so abruptly is hard to comprehend. My therapist says that he needs space and that I have done everything I can but it’s eating me up inside. Everyone says I should walk away from him but I don’t feel ready to do that yet. I love him so much and I don’t want to give up on him but at the same time I’m tired of feeling sad all the time. How do you know when to walk away?
This is beautiful it made me cry. Thank you. 🙂
I’ve been with my boyfriend for 2 years now. He is so wonderful our relationship was so amazing. He has depression and anxiety but it got worst when his grandfather passed away. I really don’t know what to do cause i feel so helpless and alone. Maybe i’m not patient enough with him, maybe i’m being a terrible girlfriend. I am stuck on the DO NOT KNOW. Just floating, hoping our relationship is still something to fight for. We started arguing a lot and just feeling sad for 3 months now(ever since his grandfather passed). I’m tired, I want to learn to be patient through his time but… i’m just tired. I want to make this work. I really do.
I haven’t tried all of these listed in the article, but i will try my best. Thanks for the venting hehe.
I haven’t been on this post in months because my relationship with my significant other has been long passed but if I have one piece of advice to give to you all dealing with someone who has depression is to try to give them their space. I didn’t realize this until after the fact but I spent so much time trying to help her get better and constantly worried about her, I didn’t realize I was smothering her by not giving her any space. We have to realize as much as we want to help the one we love at the end of the day it’s going to be up to them to pull themselves up out of that dark place. Help however you can just make sure it’s not to much on said person. I pushed mines away, maybe for good and I regret it everyday. That’s all
Hi Chris, Thanks for this reminder. You are so right about trying too hard. I know I have done this a lot and am trying to stop. For one thing, my husband has told me how guilty he feels about putting me through this hell with him. The more I hover over him the more guilty he probably feels. If I can let go, do my own thing and get some enjoyment out of life, he feels better, knowing that support is always there if he needs it. Easier said than done though.
Hi Chris, how much time is the space needed to be given?
Is there a good timeline to be measured?
How do I send this to someone without sending them it 🥲 I love my partner and I know they have things that they’re going through as well, but I wish I could send them this so they’ll remember that they’re not the only one who’s struggling, and as much as I try to help them, they could maybe help me as well :/
It is hard to see someone you care about being depressed. I’ve been depressed for quite a few years now, and am finally starting to get out of it. But now my sister, who is a few years younger than me, has been telling me she’s depressed. I don’t know if she really is, or if she’s just going through a rough few weeks, but I’m not going to tell her she isn’t. That wouldn’t do any good. But it is hard. Oh gosh it is so hard. I want to be there for her, but I’ve never been good at talking and I get super anxious because I don’t want to mess this up and it’s honestly so frustrating. I need to find a balance between being there for her and being there for myself. I do not want a relapse. But I don’t want her to fall as far as I have either. Gosh, I never wished this upon her. Depression is a shitty thing, and man oh man how I hate it. I’m sorry, I just really needed to vent, haha. I wish I could take it from her. As absolute awful it was, I would gladly relive the past few years of darkness if it meant she wouldn’t have to. If anyone has advice… Because gosh, I am stuck here.
You really need to protect yourself here. It’s fine to be there and help your sister, but for your own health, try not to absorb her feelings.
It’s easy to get into “fix mode” where you feel it’s your responsibility to help because you’ve been there yourself but just tell yourself she is her own person and will deal with her issues and you have your own to take care of.
It’s very hard, even moreso when it’s close loved one.
Sometimes I’m encouraged when I see all the comments on articles like this. It reminds me I’m not alone. My depressed ex left almost a year ago saying I deserved better and he needed to spare me. He never came back. We loved each other so much at our best. I still love him tbh, but I had to give up trying to reach him. It’s def confusing and heartbreaking to be pushed out of someone’s life– and told it’s for your own good. I know how bad it feels and how badly you want to fight for them. If only it was our battle to fight… thoughts and prayers for all of you still trying! For those of you who also had to give up it does get easier with time.
Thank you. I needed to read this. Very fresh out of a break up where I said I needed more, but got dumped with the “you deserve better than me” phrase. Still not sure whether to believe that he meant those words x
Depression goes hand in hand with negative thought patterns. You find yourself ruminating about the painful past or feeling anxious about an uncertain future. And as you lose faith in yourself that you can pull through adversity, you learn to practice negative self-talk and adopt other unhealthy habits. You start to become unkind to yourself. You or people you love may be struggling with this condition in silence. The more you understand, the sooner you can start dealing with depression.
This article is extremely helpful. I’m trying to support my husband who has suffered from depression for many years but is going through a serious, deep recurrence right now. I think I’ve been doing many of the things your article suggests, but not all of them. Will really watch out for too much reframing negative to positive – you’re right that this helps me more than him. I’m sure I’ll re-read this from time to time, especially when I feel I just can’t cope on my own. Thanks.
It’s funny how re reading these when you ha e no other way to tur, helps!
Wow thank you all. This is a great article, just what I needed…. when you love someone who is suffering with depression it is a real help to know you are not in this alone.
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Hello, I’m dealing with a similar situation. My boyfriend has high functioning depression. When we first started dating it was perfect. He was a friend of my sister’s for awhile and we just clicked. I felt I finally found that perfect person for me. I know relationships have there ups and downs. But when he told me about his depression. I didn’t know how to react. He took back his I love you saying he can see us going somewhere but couldn’t say those words when he can’t genuinely feel them. Basically hes numb inside can’t feel passion or anything. It’s starting to be very painful I can’t help but think is it worth being with him. When he may never love me. We were friends before this and it’s hard to say good bye to your best friend knowing he will probably shut out everyone and keep to him self. If and when we break up. I feel myself going back and forth with the idea knowing I putting myself in pain. But I love him can’t stand the idea of not seeing him. We are still new, December will be the mark of our 6th month. And I made a promise to myself I will end it on our year mark. If he still don’t know he loves me. Cause all this would be easier if I knew he loved me. I know depression isn’t something you can just go away. But I miss the man I fell in love with..hes been gone for awhile.
My girlfriend was so happy with me but kept telling me I wasn’t right for her ,I noticed a pattern of highs and lows which started when darker evenings appears. She told me it has to finish as it (relationship) wasn’t right. We are still good friends and I miss the relationship but I love her and am still there for her and live in hope one day she will come back. I question if I am doing the right thing for her and myself but because I love her being just a friend is enough but sometimes think am I being fair to me…its all so confusing. She does have emotional problems and has refused counselling….she never answers a question with a definite yes or no if I ask her about us, which I dont do now as dont want to add to her stress….muddled.
2 years I was with my BF and out of the blue he ends things. 4 months later we talk on occasion he tells me he doesn’t know what he wants and he doesn’t know what to do, but he doesn’t want me to walk out of his life. He tells me I’m to good for him and what I need he can’t give me, he doesn’t want to hurt me but he doesn’t deserve me . I know he does fight with depression but I don’t know what to do. It seems like he is so distant and doesn’t want to have a life. Twice he has tried to take his life and im scared for him.He goes to work and then home unless his mother needs him to do something.. I don’t know what to do, I don’t want to loose him but I don’t know how much more pain in can take. I want my best friend back. I have begged him to just be a friend, no strings but he needs a friend someone to talk to and someone just to do some things with.
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Boundaries aren`t requests we make of them. They`re the actions we take to keep them (and everyone else involved) physically safe, relationally safe, and to preserve values when they aren`t able to.
The rule: Phones in the basket at 5pm.
The boundary: (What I`m going to do when you`re having trouble with the rule.)
`Okay - I can see you`re having trouble popping your phone in the basket. I`m just going to sit beside you as a reminder that it`s time. Take your time. I`ll just watch over your shoulder until you`re ready. So who are we texting? What are we watching?`
Or:
`I know you hate this rule. It`s okay to be annoyed. It`s not okay to yell. I`m not going to listen while you`re yelling.`
Then, `This phones in the basket thing is chewing into our night when we start it at 5pm. We`ll see how we go tomorrow and if it`s bumpy, we`ll shift to phones in the basket from 4:30pm. Let`s see how we go.`
It`s not a punishment or a threat. It`s also not about what they do, but about what we do to lead the situation into a better place.
Of course, this doesn`t always mean we`ll hold the boundary with a calm and clear head. It certainly doesn`t mean that. We`re human and sometimes we`ll lose our own minds as though they weren`t ours to own. Ugh. Been there too many times. That`s okay - this is an opportunity to model humility, repair, self-compassion. What`s important is that we repair the relational rupture as soon as we can. This might sound like, `I`m sorry I yelled. That must have been confusing for you - me yelling at you to stop yelling. Let`s try that again.`❤️
Nov 18
karenyoung_heysigmund
Boundaries are about what WE do to preserve physical safety, relational safety, and values. They aren’t about punishment. They’re the consequences that make sense as a way to put everything right again and restore calm and safety.
When someone is in the midst of big feelings or big behaviour, they (as with all of us when we’re steamy) have limited capacity to lead the situation into a better place.
Because of this, rather than focusing on what we need them to do, shift the focus on what we can do to lead back to calm.
This might sound like:
The rule (what we want them to do): Phones go in the basket at 5pm.
The boundary (what we do when the rule is broken), with love and leadership: ‘I can see you’re having trouble letting go of your phone. That’s okay - I’m just going to sit beside you until you’re ready. Take your time. You’re not in trouble. I’ll just stay here and watch over your shoulder until you’re done.’
Or …
‘I can see this phones in the basket process is dragging out and chewing into our night when we start it at 5pm. If that keeps happening I’ll be starting this process at 4pm instead of 5pm.’
And if there’s a bit of spice in their response, part of being a reliable, sturdy leader is also being able to lead them through that. Even if on the inside you feel like you’re about to explode 🤯 (we’ve all been there), the posture is ‘I can handle this, and I can handle you.’ This might sound like,
‘Yep you’re probably going to have a bit to say about it. That’s okay - I don’t need you to agree with me. I know it’s annoying - and it’s happening.’
‘I won’t listen when you’re speaking to me like this. Take your time though. Get it out of you and then we can get on with the evening.’
Then, when the spicy has gone, that’s the time to talk about what’s happened. ‘You’re such a great kid. I know you know it’s not okay to talk to me like that. How are we going to put this right? Let’s yet 5pm again tomorrow and see how we go. If it causes trouble we’ll start earlier. I actually think we’ll be okay though.’♥️
Nov 10
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So ready to get started with ‘Hey Little Warrior’ in Melbourne. This is my fourth time this year presenting this workshop in Melbourne and we sell out every time.
So what do we do here?! We dive into how to support young children with anxiety. It’s my favourite thing to talk about. I love it. Even more than whether or not I want dessert. We talk about new ways to work with anxiety in littles so they can feel braver and bigger in the presence of it. This workshop is loaded with practical strategies. I love presenting this workshop.
(And yes - always yes to dessert. As if I would ever skip the most important meal of the day. Pffftt.)
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Oct 27
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They’re often called sensory preferences, but they’re sensory needs.
In our adult worlds we can move our bodies and ourselves to seek regulation. If we don’t like noise we’re less likely to be DJs for example. If we don’t love heights we’re less likely to be pilots or skydivers. If we feel overwhelmed, we can step outside, go into an office, go to the bathroom, or pop on headphones for a break. If we need to move, we can stand, walk to get a tea. At school, this is so much harder.
When bodies don’t feel safe, there will be anxiety. This will potentially drive fight (anger, tantrums), flight (avoidance, running away, movement), or shutdown (in quiet distress and can’t learn).
These are physiological issues NOT behavioural ones.
Whenever we can, we need to support physiological safety by accommodating sensory needs AND support brave behaviour. What’s tricky is disentangling anxiety driven by unmet sensory needs, from anxiety driven by brave behaviour.
The way through is to support their physiological needs, then move them towards brave behaviour.
Schools want to support this. They want all kids to be happy and the best they can be, but there will be a limit on their capacity to support this - not because they don’t want to, but because of a scarcity of resources.
There will often be many children with different physiological needs. Outside school there is nowhere else that has to accommodate so many individual needs, because as adults we won’t be drawn to environments that don’t feel okay. In contrast, school requires all kids to attend and stay regulated in the one environment.
For now, we don’t have a lot of options. Yes there are schools outside mainstream, and yes there is home school, but these options aren’t available to everyone.
So, until mainstream schools are supported with the resources (staff, spaces, small classes, less demand on curriculum … and the list goes on), what can we do?
- Help school with specific ways to support your child’s physiology while being mindful that teachers are also attending to the needs of 25+ other nervous systems. But be specific.
- Limit the list. Make this a ‘bare minimum needs’ list, not a ‘preferences’ one.♥️
Oct 20
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